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https://www.tr1.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl TR1 Discussion Boards >> Help me! I'm lost with my TR1! >> Rear Exhaust routeing. https://www.tr1.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1299448905 Message started by CasEye on 06.03.11 at 23:01:45 |
Title: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 06.03.11 at 23:01:45
Gidday guys, have got to the part where we put the engine back in the hole. been a long time getting this far. Need to know exactly where and how the rear exhaust pipe goes. Seems it wants to come out over ther rear swing arm. Can anyone post a picture or two of how it sits and let em see what is needed. Cheers. Caseye. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by Odin on 09.03.11 at 17:20:57
Godday Casey, the tube runs through frame, then by mid-swing, down in front of rear wheel |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by Dirk on 09.03.11 at 19:29:06
Maybe the picture loads. Best wishes from Dirk ![]() |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 10.03.11 at 07:33:18
Odin and Dirk, many thanks gentleman, I can now continue and finish getting the engine and the frame back as one unit. I have deliberately not taken a single photograph of the bike while it's being rebuilt but rest assured I will be posting one or two when she's done. Thank you again guys. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by Odin on 11.03.11 at 07:27:16 CasEye wrote:
How will you build the exhaust? In the original route or coustum design? For a orginag exhaust you will only be for a lot of money get in bad condition. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 12.03.11 at 03:43:11
The bike has been converted to a single exhaust some time ago. Before rebuildingn the bike I took the entire exhaustt apart, cleaned it up, cut it in half and removed the rattling rusted bits of baffle and welded it up again, then replaced the balance pipe and then had it all chromed. It looks fantastic and with the extra compression that having two completely rebuilt cyclinders complete with intact and working head gaskets I just know she is going to sound awesome. So Odin no extra expense, except the rebuilding of the old exhaust and the chroming of the entire system.NZ$800.00 to do the chroming.$15,00 - 2,000 to make a new twin system out of stainless steel. Being a poor unemployed person I took the cheaper option, I actually like the single pipe and the exhaust note it generates. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by Odin on 12.03.11 at 10:42:48
He Cateye, it's sad that you're unemployed, but comfort yourself, even with a job you have here in Germany, not many opportunities. I have the time, my bike, on Harley-Tubes rebuilt because original tubes were cheaper, and as Ratbikefahrer, then it is a matter of whether the chromium is the main thing is perfect, it works and is legal according to law. I press your thumb for you, the conversion everything works and do not cost much. Greetings from northern Germany |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 25.04.11 at 09:56:37
Hey there guys, well the engine is fully in the hole now, bolted up and ready to go. Got the rear pipe sorted out.Looks great all shiny new Chrome amongst all the black engine and frame components. Many thanks Odin and Dirk for the pics and the advice , so far. Now I've another couple of small problems. The first one. The right side exhaust bracket bolts to the pillion peg,I know this, what I don't know is on the inside or the outside of the side plate/frame.Of course it can only go one or two ways but so far which ever way I put it on the bracket it does not seem to then want to marry up with the actual exhaust pipe. Also on the same side there is an engine mounting bolt that goes through the side plate and into a caged nut on the inside of the main stand frame. It appears that there is something else between the side plate and the head of the bolt, but Ai don't know what.If i put the bolt in and wind it home the thread goes right through and wont tighten up. Your help and assistance is eagerly awaited. Still not taken a single picture of this restoration. Nearly forgot to add, I've got a jo0b again, bit of a come down from previous employment but a job is a job.Been going for a week already. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by Odin on 25.04.11 at 10:20:32
Good morning ...... Cateye first congratulations on the new job, even if it is not the old, but money is money, and you can always have. To your question to the exhaust, you want to grow the original? Or would you growing a Costumversion? I ask because the pictures, because at a Costumversion, I can help you and what do. For the original version here has someone determined images. In principle, but the exhaust is at the junction of the passenger triangle holder. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 28.04.11 at 20:47:50
Gidday there Odin, well I've obviously not explained myself quite well enough. I am all good with the exhaust system.What I need to know is simply which side of the right hand side Triangular aluminum side plate(it carries the front foot rest and the exhaust mounting bracket) the exhaust bracket bolts too. As I wrote in my earlier post this is also a small problem for me, perhaps I also need to explain it a bit better. Also on the same side there is an engine mounting bolt that goes through the aluminium side plate and into a caged nut on the inside of the main stand frame. It appears that there is something else between the side plate and the head of the bolt, but Ai don't know what.If i put the bolt in and wind it home the thread goes right through and wont tighten up. Again looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks for the good wishes and congratulations on the job, it's actually going very well and I'm enjoying it. Just had an idea. The picture (such detail was amazing) that Dirk posted for me last time is brilliant, all I need is for that picture to have been taken including the aluminium side plate and showing the rear and front footrests and the exhaust bracket position(IE; behind the side plate, in front of the side plate) That would do it. Cheers again. Caseye. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by Odin on 28.04.11 at 21:58:09
Hy Cateye, I'll try to make some picture for you. The photo will not show the original exhaust, but where it is assembling. Did you also talk in the "technical area" the details drawings for the item? There you can also see how. ;) |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 12.06.11 at 05:59:36
OK still having technical difficulties. i have the main lead from the starter solenoid(above the starter motor) which i believe runs to a frame earth somewhere which then runs to the earth side of the battery and then I have the power feed to the starter to plug into something. BUTT the problem I have is that I don't have any wires with a female bullet end anywhere on the bike. Same problem for the oil level light ( i think that's what it is) co0ems from the right hand underside of the sump and runs back down the side with the power and lead wires. But again no female bullet to connect it too. I cannot remember taking them apart so it's making life very difficult trying to get it all to go together. Any assistance welcomed. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by Odin on 12.06.11 at 11:51:08 CasEye wrote:
The starter motor gets its power once on the earth and the thick cable, directly from the battery, the only single from a thick 20Amp relay is interrupted. this Releais 20A has two cables, one red / white and a blue / white .... the blue / white to the earth and that is red and the Startkonpf, these are then returned to the red of the battery CasEye wrote:
Here you have it properly recognized ..... the oil level sensor is right below the engine block, and for this sensor is only one cable! from. This sensor gets its power from the frame ground (earth) and work as a simple switch, the heist, you have now only one light source (bulb or LED for 12-Volt) plug, and this light source, then connect power with Plus, the best after the ignition key .... All you can check only if no or not enough people in the engine oil is, because then the light source is lit. CasEye wrote:
Electricity is to always look like water ... with water taps and Ventiele |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 27.08.11 at 23:23:07
Well guys she goes! An she goes very well. Been for a quick spin around the block, after my best mate and head mechanic took her out for the first run. No pics yet, but just as soon as I've done the shakedowns and got the tank bolted on with all the other painted bits and then I'll post some up here. Many thanks for all the help could not have done it by myself Cheers fellas. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by Odin on 28.08.11 at 11:50:42
Great, your machine is running again :D :D :D :D :D :D .... delighted us all here. I'm trying to rebuild my machine to single carburetor. I must get the Einzelansaugstuzen and an old Harley-CS carburetor. May still take several months, because money does not grow on trees. |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 05.11.11 at 01:50:11
Well I hope this works guys as it'll show you how she looks. ![]() |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 05.11.11 at 01:58:31
Another for the detail
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Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 05.11.11 at 01:59:30
yet another.Hope I'm putting these in the right place.
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Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 05.11.11 at 02:01:20
last one for now.
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Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 05.11.11 at 02:07:07
I personally loved the work on the panniers, here the right hand side one up close.
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Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 05.11.11 at 02:10:42
For Balance the other side and the chromed pipe.
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Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by Odin on 05.11.11 at 10:34:15
Hi Casey, in the early 1980s, I made [ch8203][ch8203]an apprenticeship as a painter with an airbrush. And I must say, your airbrush has been super great job. All the details have become great ... especially the Yamaha sign is cool. Do you like but still make time a more accurate picture of your exhaust system? Because one sees only the right tube, from front to back, but how and where you've connected the rear cylinder? Many greetings from the "Old Country" (the name of the region here in Hamburg), in Lower Saxony Odin |
Title: Re: Rear Exhaust routeing. Post by CasEye on 05.11.11 at 21:01:13
She has just the one external pipe Odin.The rear cylinder joins at the normal place but on the right side. The pipe had previously been painted Matt black. Unfortunately I've had to take the pipe off yesterday and it needs a piece cutting out and being replaced, metal maggot ( rusting till too thin ) has allowed the exhaust gases to find a pin hole and it's blown the chrome off the outer surface.Right at the rear cylinder connection point. Apart from that she rides beautifully and behaves extremely well. Done nearly 3000 in 6 weeks, considering that's mostly just weekend riding, OK I've blasted off out of town a few times during the week too, after work. Loving it. Thanks for the comments on the paint work, when I get some pictures out in the sunlight I'll add a couple that don't show reflections in the paint, the depth comes through much better then. |