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https://www.tr1.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl TR1 Discussion Boards >> Help me! I'm lost with my TR1! >> 1981 750 XV, smoke coming Out Of The left side https://www.tr1.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1327303643 Message started by Monkey_boy on 23.01.12 at 08:27:22 |
Title: 1981 750 XV, smoke coming Out Of The left side Post by Monkey_boy on 23.01.12 at 08:27:22
hello everybody, first I'd like to thank you for this website as I find it very helpfull to find technical informations to repair my old bike. I'm having trouble with some smoke coming Out through The joints on The left side Of The engine, and when i open the oil tank, more smoke coming Out. I guess it has something to do with oil température, but where should i look to find The problem and fix it ? I hope someone Will be able to help me. Thank you John I'm french so Excuse my english... |
Title: Re: 1981 750 XV, smoke coming Out Of The left side Post by stefan stein on 23.01.12 at 14:26:40 Hello, is the smoke coming out between the cylinder and cylinder head? When there is smoke inside the engine, I'm afraid that the cylinder head gasket is rotten. This happens usually in cause of a gap on the cylinders top between the gasket and the timing chain case. When the gasket gets damaged there, hot gas will get into the chain case and the whole engine. You may hear a funny sound, while the engine is running. This gap was a problem for the early TR1s. In the 1980s, Yamaha fixed that, because it was a real disease. Yet, some people were not aware of that service, and missed it. Others thought it was not necessary. There are two ways of getting rid of this problem: Closing the gap by welding (soudage), or putting a matching piece of steel in the gap, that prevents the gasket from getting blown apart again. You may find more information in the technical part of this website. When You take off the cylinder head, You will see if there is that gap on top of the cylinder or not. If it is there, what I strongly suppose, You should fix it or have it fixed, because otherwise this may happen again. It even makes sense to do the same with the other cylinder, once You got tzhe engine out of the frame. I'm sorry that I have no better news for You. Je suis désolé. But hang on, Stefan |
Title: Re: 1981 750 XV, smoke coming Out Of The left side Post by Monkey_boy on 23.01.12 at 17:14:57
Hi Stéphan and thanx for The quick answer. The smoke actually come Out of The oil gasket on The left side on The lower part Of The engine. It dors smell more like burning than exaust gas. I hope it's not that bad. Thanks John |
Title: Re: 1981 750 XV, smoke coming Out Of The left side Post by Monkey_boy on 23.01.12 at 17:17:22
Sorry i missed a word. Read " it smell more like burning oil than exaust gaz" |
Title: Re: 1981 750 XV, smoke coming Out Of The left side Post by stefan stein on 23.01.12 at 20:22:35
Hi, I'm sorry but I don't see any other explanation for the smoke that is coming out of the engine. Right now You don't see the problem because it is hidden inside. When driving You should realize a lack of performance. Maybe it's not too bad right now since one cylinder is still o.k., but it might get worse. Oil temperature in the TR1 engine can be fairly highm but it wouldn't cause any smoke. Cheers, Stefan |
Title: Re: 1981 750 XV, smoke coming Out Of The left side Post by stefan stein on 23.01.12 at 20:36:15 the only other explanation for this phenomenon would be a hole in a piston. But this is very, very unlikely. It's something that happens frequently with two-stroke engines and sometimes with high performance engines. Never heard that it occurred in a TR1. And serious trouble with the piston rings You would have noticed by enormous oil consumption and very, very poor performance. The afflicted cylinder wouldn't work any longer and the bike would not go faster than 70 km/h. ST |