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Message started by Alex-TR1 on 31.03.21 at 22:49:37

Title: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 31.03.21 at 22:49:37

Hi Guys,

Hope you're doing well.

I finally start my TR1 engine restoration. I bought a very tired TR1 with crankshaft dead and I'm planning to make this engine running, install a nice fork and a Z650 SR tank (I've got one! ;D) and ride !

Last year I bought a 2AE Engine from a XV1000, aiming to remove the crankshaft and pistons to install it on my 5A8 but, trouble just started.. On my 5A8, rear cylinder is scratched, and my front cylinder exhaust valve guide is broken :-/

So now I'm just thinking to swap the cylinders assembly but, notice the 5A8 low cylinder is having 2 seals whilst the 2AE is flat. I compared the rest they look identical. I had few pictures for you to see.

Is anyone can confirm mounting 2AE cylinder is doable on a 5A8 ? Came shaft are identical ? Any advice ?

Thank you !


Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 31.03.21 at 23:21:30

5A8




Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 31.03.21 at 23:22:03

2AE




Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Sepp on 01.04.21 at 07:43:19

Yes, you must check the length with the head gasket.
I would take a slimer feet gasket (0,25)
S.


Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 01.04.21 at 10:36:12

Thanks for your prompt reply !

I saw on google that 5A8 compression ratio is higher than 2AE, do you think that really matter ?


Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 01.04.21 at 15:35:43

I’m going from a surprise to another, the rear cylinder on the 2AE is also scratched  :-/

I was confident as I thought I could mix cylinder and head cylinder from
both engine but with this gasket difference doesn’t help.

Both cylinder looks identical (front and aft), are they ?

Anyone has already tried to repair scratch in a cylinder. I checked in google, can’t find a cylinder in good shape ..


Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 04.04.21 at 22:48:03

Hi Guys,

Anyone succeed to fix a scratched cylinder, instead of replacing it ? I still can't find any cylinder available on Google ..

Cylinder 1 and 2 are identical ?

Thanks !

Alex


Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by nanno on 05.04.21 at 08:42:59

Hi Alex,

cylinder #1 & #2 are absolutely identical. As XV1100 cylinders are geometrically identical to 2AE-cylinders you can also use those. If the 1063cc markings on the cylinder base are an issue for you, you have to figure out yourself.

I also have at least one set of XV1100 cylinders and probably even a set of XV1000(TR1) cylinders with the headgasket groove, in case you're interested, drop me a PM and we can take it from there.

Cheers,
Greg


Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 05.04.21 at 19:00:37

Hi Greg,

Glad to hear from you again !

Thanks a lot for your reply, in theory (depending of the current French lockdown) I should be able to know if I need 1 or 2 cylinders this weekend as I’m going to check cylinders and piston size with a true bike mechanic (Yes I’m just an amateur ;-))

I’ll reach you by MP to get more details.

I’ll also try to post some pictures of the beast, this forum is also for passionate isn’t it ?

Cheers
Alex


Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 05.04.21 at 19:03:41

Here is the beast, I’ll be a long journey until I’ll ride it 😅




Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 05.04.21 at 19:11:18

2 engines aren’t enough to make one running🙄 Iwas supposed to buy a serviceable 2AE engines but I found a timing chaîne guide in the alternator cas when I open it. Not a honest seller 😡






Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 21.05.21 at 23:31:36

Hi Guys,

Here an update, i finally find on serviceable cylinder. I've just finished to paint everything and I'm thinking to put everything back in the crankcase.

Questions :  service manual state the crankshaft number for bearing calculation is stamped on crankshaft left web. I think I found the number (2) but as I didn't remove the bearing, could you please confirm there is no other number under the bearing ?

Also, is there any cross table with the bearing color and part number associated ? The bearing color isn't mentioned on the website, just the part number is listed.






Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 21.05.21 at 23:32:48

Freshly painted parts






Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 27.05.21 at 22:41:59

Hi guys,

Is anyone already replaced rod bearing ? Could you please confirm the number 2 on the picture is the number used for bearing calculation ? Any part number/bearing color cross table ?

Thanks a lot for your help
Cheers
Alex


Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by nanno on 27.05.21 at 23:39:17

Yep, that's the number. On how to do it, i.e. the table: it's in the Haynes and Clymer manuals and I am pretty sure it's also in the tech-section of this forum as well.

If you have plastigauge available you still may want to check the clearances just to be sure.


Title: Re: Mounting 2AE cylinder on a 5A8
Post by Alex-TR1 on 28.05.21 at 07:37:15

Appreciate the usual support Greg , thanks!

I’ll seek on the forum

Cheers
Alex