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1981 xv750 (Read 10205 times)
Odin
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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #10 - 03.02.12 at 14:19:43
 
Quote from crazy cow on 02.02.12 at 21:00:02:
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Du meinst, Odin kann überhaupt kein englisch?  Ich dachte schon, ich könne keins. Cheesy
Ich wollte dich nicht kränken Odin, ich dachte, wenn du gut übersetzen kannst, brauche ich das nicht.

Olaf


He Jungs ( Stefan, Dirk und Olaf)  Cheesy Cheesy .. keine Panik,sehe ich völlig locker  Grin Grin Grin Grin ..... und ja ich habe den Übersetzer benutzt  Roll Eyes, weil ich an dem Abend zu faul und müde war, weil ich jeden Tag Fachenglisch, mir um die Ohren schlagen muß  Tongue Tongue, nur ist das "Aeroenglisch",  wieder ganz ein etwas anders Fachenglisch, als das normal englisch.
Und bei Joe seiner Frage hatte ich echte Problem das zu raffen, was für ein Geräusch er nun meint ... sicher spricht er ein US-englisch, mit Slang  Wink Wink ....

Mir kamen die gleichen ??? ins gesicht wie Olaf, was die verbrannte Kopfdichtung mit dem Metalabrieb zu tun haben soll, ausser jemand hat schon mal was am Kopf gemacht und geschlampt.

Vieleicht sollten wir mal auf weiter Informationen von dem Joe hoffen .... weil irgendwie war es auch wenig an Information.  embarrassed
Und ferndiagnosen, wissen wir alle, sind immer so ne Angelegenheit.  Roll Eyes

Gruß aus dem kalten "Alten Land" bei HH  Wink



 
 
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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #11 - 05.02.12 at 23:29:25
 
Thanks for the response from everyone . Odins comment concerning not enough information from me may be correct and I will try to give more soon . All you members who are helping must remember that I have to translate English from German and if slang or incorrect words are used in comments then sometimes the translation can look a little like braille !! . for my sake cdould you please keep the language simple . thanks again and ALL comments help to form a picture of perhaps what the problem is .

 
 
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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #12 - 06.02.12 at 17:00:23
 

Sorry for this. It's not very polite to discuss things in german, while You are waiting for solid information.
The conversation was mostly about using this translator button. As the german word "Dichtung" means gasket as well as poetry or poem, the software decided for poetry. These translator devices always make a real mess.

There were also some ideas about rattling noise to be heard around the cylinder head:
The rear camshaft bearing (deep in the cylinder head) sometimes wears out. This makes the camshaft move abnormally up and down. This effect occurs after much more than 100.000 Kilometers. Sometimes it happens earlier, in cause of insufficient oil supply. The reason for this may be a worn out/ really dirty oil pump, some kind of dirt inside the engine (torn oil filter/pieces of paper ...) that blocks the oil supply, a very bad/dirty oil filter, an oil filter inserted upside down (!!!) and so on. This can also cause damage at the rockers, what may be another source of metallic rattling noise.
Some people prefer the 1100 Virago's oil pump. They say it works much better. One of us widens the diameter of this hollow screw in the oil pipe system. As a matter of fact, the oil supply in the original set up is not good. Camshafts, rockers and valves in Yamahas BT 1100 seem as good as new, when You look at them after more than 100.000 Km. The TR1's parts don't, unfortunately. You will at least find traces at the camshafts, what does not mean that the bike won't run for another 70.000 Km or so.
The camshaft moving up and down may cause clicking noise. But as I said earlier, You will hear evil sounds as soon as the gasket is gone. These are rattling and metallic too.
I don't know much about grinding the cylinder heads. But as nobody else makes a comment, I would say that there is nothing against it.
The original Yamaha gasket is recommended, not the poem. In certain momments, a poem may help You too, if You know a good one.

So hang on,

Stefan

 
 

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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #13 - 06.02.12 at 23:22:18
 
Thankyou Stephan for your comments . Your explanation of the translater explained a few things and I must admit " poem " had Me a bit  confused !! . To the problem . The cams & cam bearings have been measured by a professional and are within tolerance . the oil delivery seems good when I LIFTED THE LINES WHEN THE ENGINE WAS RUNNING ( BIT MESSY !! ) . The bike has 54000 klms indicated ?  and is in generally good condition . I purchased it 2 years ago but when it started making the noise I put it aside for a while . I think I will have the heads ground ( skimmed ) & fit new gaskets including under the barrels . By the way , I live on the coast in Southern New South Wales Australia & the weather here is beautiful at the moment 23 degrees C , not like some places in Europe !!. As a matter of interest , I have varius other bikes and bits : Another XV750 which I ride ( its a bit rough ) but dont tell it !!    Roll Eyes . A 1951 350 A.J.S. which I ride with my restorers club friends  . A 1978 Honda 750 F2 supersport , being restored . A 1976 Yamaha XSC 650 twin , ready for restoration , and parts to build a 1951 A.J.S. 500 single & parts to build a 1954 Matchless 500 single . All to do if I live long enough  Grin Grin. Regards Joe . Cheesy

 
 
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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #14 - 06.02.12 at 23:28:12
 
Sorry Stefan , I misspelt your name in My previous message . Joe .

 
 
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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #15 - 07.02.12 at 01:18:52
 
Dear Sirs,  Cheesy
I think writing german is less a question of political correctness than a question of how to.
Manfred installed an online translater a few weeks ago, and we all just start using it and slowly get some experience. For best results you have to be logged in Cheesy  and, pardon me, an article has to be written in writers language. The reader on the other side now can use the translate button. I tested it and therefore wrote my comments in german.

Gasket or poetry, I think you never can be sure if an article appears ridiculous on the other side even if you spare google translation. So does this one.

I think, if we dont start using it, we´ll never get practice working with it.

Your XV: no, not the camshaft bearing but the rocker arm shaft bearings use to wear out and cause clunk. Just try out and jiggle. I´m sure you find one of those eight bearings, so did I.

Cheers, Olaf



edit: for those who prefer handmade translation, please try my suggestion:

http://dict.leo.org/

Simply type a german or english item into the search window and dont forget to clock your work...

 
 
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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #16 - 07.02.12 at 23:23:30
 
Crazy Cow . I have tried wiggling the rockers on their shafts And can feel no wear . I pulled them out to see if any wear was apparent , no . I pulled the valves out to see if I had a broken inner spring  , no . Thanks for your comments , they all help . Thanks to all who comment , keep them coming .  Wink Thanks Joe . (Raining today , will have to play in the shed !! , what a blow  !!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy ) .

 
 
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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #17 - 08.02.12 at 11:30:29
 
Quote from crazy cow on 07.02.12 at 01:18:52:
I think, if we dont start using it, we´ll never get practice working with it.

What kind of practice do you want to achieve with a f...ing translator? Do you want to write your postings in german, translate them to englisch, and then check if they where translated correctly? Therefore you need to know english and can write directly in english...

Bye,
Georg

 
 

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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #18 - 08.02.12 at 11:33:36
 
Quote from joe on 07.02.12 at 23:23:30:
Crazy Cow . I have tried wiggling the rockers on their shafts And can feel no wear . I pulled them out to see if any wear was apparent , no . I pulled the valves out to see if I had a broken inner spring  , no.

I think you should remount the heads with new gaskets and give it a try. If its not broken, dont fix it... Wink

Bye,
Georg

 
 

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Re: 1981 xv750
Reply #19 - 11.02.12 at 00:12:57
 
Quote from hornschorsch on 08.02.12 at 11:30:29:
Quote from crazy cow on 07.02.12 at 01:18:52:
I think, if we dont start using it, we´ll never get practice working with it.

What kind of practice do you want to achieve with a f...ing translator? Do you want to write your postings in german, translate them to englisch, and then check if they where translated correctly? Therefore you need to know english and can write directly in english...

Bye,
Georg



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Was ist das wieder für ein Blödsinn? Lies noch mal durch.

Auf solch eine Idee kannst auch nur du kommen. Wenn ich deutsch schreibe, muss sich der Leser mit der Googleation rumschlagen, warum sollte das ein Autor überprüfen wollen? Streichholz anzünden, um zu checken, ob das Licht aus ist? Karneval oder was?

Im Übrigen: Leute lernen nicht nur englisch, wenn die Umstände es erfordern, sie lernen auch mit der linken Hand zu schreiben, wenn die rechte nicht mehr tut, oder mit einem Rollstuhl zu leben. Wer Googlean English benutzt, lernt mit der Zeit mit seinen Fehlern um zu gehen, bestimmte Formulierungen zu vermeiden usw. Ausserdem würde ich davon ausgehen, dass Googleation besser wird, je intensiver es benutzt wird. Kommt von Evolution. Das würde aber vielleicht eine ordentliche Rückkopplung voraussetzen. Allgemeiner Forenstil ist da wahrscheinlich wenig hilfreich. Manfred hat sich nun einmal die Mühe gemacht, also bitte, warum nicht wenigstens probieren?

Gruß, Olaf

 
 
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