Mabye it is the clutch causing the problem, but if the lever is not pulling correctly, see here-  https://www.tr1.de/pages/technics_manual.php?iQuery=key=xv1000&lng=eng&flg=0&pge=0008   - you will have a similar issue. Remove the small lever-cover, push the lever manually as far as it is possible , using a screw-driver or a bolt.  If there is no success, remove  the left engine-cover and look for wear to the clutch and the gears,
regards Ali

Hello

Check what Ali said first.

It sounds as if the clutch is engaging and the starter is spinning. Have you had the side cover off yet. I came across an incident recently with a TR1 with no intermediate gears fitted, So remove the side cover and check if the gears are there!!

The planetary gear can also spin within the starter motor itself. It normally allows a little engagement of the starter mech so it sounds like you would have extreme wear to allow that.

I would you remove the nearside covers and check all the mech is there and functioning.

Are you based in the UK? if so where?

Best of luck.
Kevin (UK)

First: Ali, I tried to push the lever all the way in. Ignition was off, and the starter was spinning for a second one time. I also tried to start it while the lever was pushed all the way in, but no difference.

Kevin: I am in Norway.. It has gone from working just fine to doing as in the video in a few days with (stupid me..) a lot of work for the starter, trying to start with the gas crane in On-position, when it should have been on Res...
I have removed the engine oil, and will check behind the engine cover tomorrow if I can find the time.

Earlier I did remove the starter, and looked at what I believe must be what you are referring to as planetary gear, after googling it.. Now I only remember that I pulled out the gears and looked at them, they looked okay, and I inserted them back in. I believe it was possible to rotate them manually, but I am not sure.

I will anyway try to look for wear on the clutch, and see if I can get closer to a solution. Will update when done.

Thanks to you both. I havent done any mechanics for 25+ years, and then it was only on my Yamaha DT50, inserting a big(ger..) bore kit, going from 2.5 hp to 7.5 hp, which was fun enough, and some other minor stuff, so my knowledge and skills are on a very low level, and I am grateful for your patience.

I'll buy the plane tickets for Norway, and pick you up in the airport!

Better see if I can fix it myself first.. I removed the starter again, and as you can see in the new video, the outer weel does spin around, and it is also possible to pull out and remove.. I'll try to fix it so it doesnt rotate.

https://youtu.be/mW6erdEHM7Y

Thanks again, Kevin!

Br
Roger

Hello Roger

I can see the problem in the video. You zoomed in on the outer ring and the planetary gears. You then placed your finger on the outer ring and rotated it. That is your problem. The outer ring should not rotate. It is a press fit and should be tight.

You can either remove the assembly and replace it. Or you can remove it and spot weld the outer ring into the starter casing. Or, without removing it you can drill a hole through the side of the casing and into the outer ring. Then tap it and fit a screw.

Best of luck.

Kevin