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Tritonkev
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Ignition problem
13.03.26 at 19:13:45
 
Hi all only runs on rear cylinder new coils new ignitech sparker
Sparks on both plugs spits and bangs on front runs on rear tried swapping coils over still the same will sometimes run for a short time then n sparks done resistance test on pick up wires and all good
Also tried the old tci runs great on rear but nothing on the front
Help

 
 

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Re: Ignition problem
Reply #1 - 13.03.26 at 19:50:23
 
Damit bleibt als Ursache im Wesentlichen ein defekter Sensor des vorderen Zylinders.

 
 

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Tritonkev
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Re: Ignition problem
Reply #2 - 13.03.26 at 20:04:35
 
Do you think the pulse pick up

 
 

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Re: Ignition problem
Reply #3 - 13.03.26 at 20:06:52
 
Hello  Tritonkev,
do you have checked the Pick-Up Coils it self?

values see here: https://www.tr1.de/pages/technics_manual.php?key=XV750se&lng=eng&flg=0&pge=6028

The Pick-up Plug you can find on the left side, beside the Airfilter Housing. It is a Plug with four contacts.


Igniteck: 4 Contact Plug:
R (red) and Br (Brown) are Ground
BL (Blue) is Pick-Up 1
GN (Green) is Pick-Up 2

TR1 Wire Diagram:
https://www.tr1.de/pages/technics_manual.php?key=XV750se&lng=eng&flg=0&pge=7073  ; here Position 25

Regards
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Tritonkev
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Re: Ignition problem
Reply #4 - 13.03.26 at 21:13:34
 
I did check resistance as it says in the manual at plug and all good

 
 

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Re: Ignition problem
Reply #5 - 14.03.26 at 07:51:33
 
Hi Tritonkev, hi all,

I experienced a similar issue with my bike shortly ago: Sometimes (but not not regularly) one of the cylinders had no spark and began to spit and bang. I checked, exchanged and/or renewed the following components:
  • spark plugs, spark plug connectors, spark plug cables
  • spark coils (including their wiring and connectors for the primary coils)
  • ignition unit (TCI), I tried both: an ignitech as well as an intact original one
  • pick-up coil unit (I installed a NOS part)
  • battery (incl. connection elements and ground wiring)
  • all the wiring and connectors that are related to the ignition, ignition lock and pick-up circuits
  • carburetors.

All that didn't help. Finally I exchanged the voltage regulator/rectifier. Seems that this was the culprit - as I could ride more than 550 km since then without the ignition issue.

My assumption for the root cause of the failure: The voltage regulator delivered false voltage values for some moments. As a consequence, the TCI became bamboozled and delivered no regular spark impulses any more.

Cheers,

Roland

 
 

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Tritonkev
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Re: Ignition problem
Reply #6 - 14.03.26 at 20:06:23
 
Interesting i disconnected the regulator today but still the same issue

 
 

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Re: Ignition problem
Reply #7 - 15.03.26 at 13:04:46
 
Simply disconnecting the regulator won't solve the problem. You need to ensure that the voltage required by the ignition system isn't too high or too low. Furthermore, operating the alternator without a regulator and battery could damage the stator winding. It's best to first measure the charging voltage with the engine running. It should be around 14.5 volts.

 
 

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Tritonkev
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Re: Ignition problem
Reply #8 - 15.03.26 at 16:56:10
 
Yes I know i only ran it for a short time with it disconnected just to see if it made any difference it didn't i did check it for charging at a flat tick over showing about 14 volts.

 
 

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