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TR1 With BT1100 crank
08.10.19 at 12:36:15
 
Hello ,

I have aTR1 engine and would like to mount a BT1100 crank , cylinders and pistons . The BT1100 cylinders are a bit wider ( outside) and do not fit in the TR1 crankcase , must I enlarge the TR1 crankcase or can I reduce the BT1100 cylinders (outside where they go into the carter) ? Can anyone help me with that

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Re: TR1 With BT1100 crank
Reply #1 - 08.10.19 at 15:02:41
 
Sure, I am in the process of doing the same thing at the moment. It's generally easier to turn down the cylinders than to bore the cases as you would have to take all the bearings out to prevent them from swarf.

 
 

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Re: TR1 With BT1100 crank
Reply #2 - 08.10.19 at 15:24:06
 
Hi Patrick, welcome in the forum.
In my opinion, the only viable solution is boring or milling the holes in the motor housing to the correct diameter.
I do it on a milling machine.

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Re: TR1 With BT1100 crank
Reply #3 - 08.10.19 at 21:30:21
 
Thanks you for the good advice, I also think it is best to enlarge the crankcase, because I don't have a milling machine, I bored out an old 920R cylinder at 105mm, and try to enlarge the hole with a hole saw (105mm), this is no precision fitting, cylinder BT1100 is 104mm, hole crankcase105mm .
Can I use the clutch of the BT1100 , do I have to replace the axle for that ?

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Re: TR1 With BT1100 crank
Reply #4 - 08.10.19 at 21:31:32
 
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Re: TR1 With BT1100 crank
Reply #5 - 09.10.19 at 07:17:56
 
THAT is a bad*ss approach. Unfortunately one that might bite you. Unlike on your 920 the BT seals with a metal gasket and I am not sure that it will seal well, when you open it out this far.

Turning down the liners sounds bad, but we're talking only about 0.5mm reduction in wall thickness...

If you want to run the BT-clutch, which you could use as a basis for a 9-disk clutch, you'd have to swap in the complete BT-gearbox. Added benefit would be a slightly longer 5th gear. (I did the math in another thread, it's somewhere around 3 to 5 percent. Same as with an older XV1100 gearbox, which I currently have in and yes, you do notice it, if you have to do some Autobahn-touring every now and again.)

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Re: TR1 With BT1100 crank
Reply #6 - 09.10.19 at 07:24:08
 
By using the BT Gearbox, you must use the gear ratio and the outer clutch plate from the old engine.
Clean the inside from the crank and use new plane bearings in blue or black!
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Re: TR1 With BT1100 crank
Reply #7 - 09.10.19 at 19:30:53
 
So correct me if I misunderstand, I use the axles, clutch of the BT1100, gears and outer clutch plate of the TR1

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Re: TR1 With BT1100 crank
Reply #8 - 09.10.19 at 19:35:19
 
I have cylinder heads from BT1100, xv1000Tr1 and xv920. Do they all have the same camshaft and can I exchange them, probably best use the xv920 cylinder head?

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Re: TR1 With BT1100 crank
Reply #9 - 09.10.19 at 19:39:08
 
Badass solution no so bad after all , 105,5mm ,normal 105mm BT1100

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